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Poster: Sonshine Date: Sep 10, 2007 5:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Strange Mix - Terrapin

I was driving into work this morning and listening to Terrapin from 77-05-17 and after the line ...The story teller makes no choice, soon you will not hear his voice, his job it to shed light not to Master. The song Master of Puppets by metallica enters my head. I'd love to hear what it would sound like to mix in master of puppets right after that line. So it would be like a question answer mix.

...The story teller makes no choice, soon you will not hear his voice, his job it to shed light not to Master. Master, Master, where's the dreams that I've been after, Laughter, Laughter. then back into terrapin. Anyone who has the time and can mix this up, it could be interesting.

Like God and Satan battling it out.

Sorry sometimes my brain thinks of these strange things.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 10, 2007 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Yep, that is one fugged-up train of thought.

Maybe I can top it, but it's not GD-related.

On This Date In Beatles History:
September 10, 1846, Elias Howe received a patent for his sewing machine.

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Poster: Sonshine Date: Sep 10, 2007 7:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

One of the weirdest scenes I remember was at Buckeye Lake in the early 90's. The Violent Femmes opened for the dead and it was awesome. People were moshing during the Femmes and then floating during the dead.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 10, 2007 7:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Violent Femmes opening for The Grateful Dead: now that's what I call a non-sequiter.

I missed that one, but did see Steve Miller opening at that venue, and then Sting the following year. Those double-bills made a little more logical sense.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 10, 2007 8:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Not to me Bryan. I'd rather think of the Dead as cutting edge/independent/anarchists instead of over the hill boring mid-aged yuppie retreads which is how I consider the other openers.

Violent Femmes, Cracker, now those openers say something to me. Kind of reminds me of Sonic Youth. Never was a fan or anything but I LOVE how you can have a band with at least one if not two admitted DeadHeads sound NOTHING like the Dead. Just seems way more inspirational than something like the Zen Trickers or some other flimsy " inspired by" band.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 10, 2007 9:56am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

"over the hill boring mid-aged yuppie retreads"

Just for the record, I wasn't bored in the least.

Your point is well-taken, although Cracker isn't one of the first bands that would come to mind for me in that slot. Then again I am not overly familiar with them, either. If I heard one of their songs right now, I doubt that I'd be able to name it as one of theirs. Is there a Dead Head among them?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 10, 2007 10:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Fair enough. I've never seen Sting live ( although I do have one of his opening shows with Jerry sitting in ) but as talented as he is he does bore me. And Steve Miller? Never was a fan.

Cracker DeadHeads? Doubtful but so what? Does ( did ) that need to be a prerequisite? How lame would that be? I believe they got the slot due to them covering ( excellently I might add ) the song Loser. Cracker was born from the band Camper Van Beethoven, a great band that never seemd to break out of the underground/college scene. In any event, a very very respectable " current" ( at the time ) band. Lots of great shows here at the Archive.

Personally I preferred there NOT be an opening band but of the few I saw Beuseleil was probably my favorite followed by Santana

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 10, 2007 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

I do vaguely remember that they covered Loser, but I also recall liking what originals of theirs I did know more than I liked their treatment of that. Not that I'm anti-GD covers, just didn't like that one all that much. Didn't Willie do Loser recently, or was it a different song? I just read Cracker's Wikipedia page, and while I remember the title Low, even that I actually liked it, for the life of me I don't remember what it sounded like. Eurotrash Girl I do remember, but it came off to me as little more than a "novelty" song. And I'm not suggesting at all that bands of this nature should have had a Dead Head within their personnel if they were working as an opening band. That kind of thinking WOULD be lame and I can't imagine anyone in the Dead requiring it of a supporting act, either. I interpreted what you said, "but I LOVE how you can have a band with at least one if not two admitted DeadHeads sound NOTHING like the Dead," as referring to Cracker, but I re-read your post, and I now understand that you were actually referring to Sonic Youth. Am I now clear about that? As for my likes and dislikes, though, I would take Sonic Youth over Violent Femmes any day of the week and twice on Sundays. They do it for me much more than Cracker, too. By the way, today is David Lowery's 47th birthday. Cracker did open for the Dead at some point, but what about Sonic Youth?

I saw Santana before the Dead in '78-very powerful lineup there, with The Outlaws on before Santana. Eddie Money opened the show, but he seemed very out of place-new pop act, recently signed by Bill Graham's company to manage his career, and Two Tickets To Paradise just came off as being a bit silly. As for Beausoleil, maybe you should chime in on the thread started farther up this page by Cliff Hucker. And while I don't share your feelings about Steve Miller, I do understand your position there. His Top 40 material could be viewed by many as little more than ear pablum, but it's fine by me, plus he and his band cranked out a good 40 minutes or so worth of straight blues that day before a single note's worth of the radio hits. And I do like the blues, dontcha know. The Sting show was just a very good concert, plain and simple-he earned his keep quite nicely, the headliners gathered all around the wings to watch him and his band at work while Vince actually played with as a guest, then he joined the Dead for Foolish Heart, standing side-by-side with Phil for a bass showdown. And the Dead had a very clean-sounding, strong show that night, too. I also saw Zevon open for them in Boulder at one of the 15th Anniversary shows. He was okay.

This post was modified by BryanE on 2007-09-10 20:56:56

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 10, 2007 2:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

I can't stand Eddie Money, never could.

As for Steve Miller, I thought he stopped doing respectable blues when Boz Scaggs left. Either way, ever hear what Miles Davis had to say about him? Oh MAN! Purposely showed up late so that he wouldn't have to open for " that non playin motherfucker" oh man Bill Graham was pissed, but it's hard to argue with a musical genious. My wife loves Steve Miller so I allways have to tell her what Miles said, just because I'm perverse that way : )

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 10, 2007 2:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Hell, Miles probably said that about ANYBODY that was booked to follow him---not a man who was noted for having a shortage of ego---although I don't know what his comment was with regard to opening for the Dead. It's well-documented how much Phil hated having to follow him, though.

There's a great story about Jerry Lee Lewis being told he would have to open for Chuck Berry, but I'm not going to repeat it here.

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Sep 11, 2007 8:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Actually Miles said incredibly flattering things about the Dead, especially Jerry. Personally I think it was due to the knowledge and respect of his music and Jazz music in general that Jerry and the band had more so than how well they were playing. Sorry but I see 1970 as a transitional year for the Dead. While there were flashes of genious ( as always ) I wouldn't put that time frame ( when they opened for Miles ) as their most impressive musically. At any rate I can only think of a few white non jazz artists that Miles clearly respected and I think it is a very good testament to the band that they were one. Incidently Willie Nelson was another one which also proves, is it possible to NOT like Wille as a person? Well maybe his ex wives might argue that but that's another topic.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 11, 2007 9:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

My offhand remark about Miles notwithstanding, I'm not surprised in the least that he held their abilities in high regard.

As for Willie, trying to come up with some way to badmouth the man would be an exercise in futility. By the way, after thinking more carefully, I remembered that Stella Blue was the song he covered recently, not Loser. Also, check local PBS listings for Last Of The Breed with Willie, Merle Haggard, and Ray Price. It's running tonight in St. Louis.

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Poster: JamminJerome Date: Sep 10, 2007 8:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Hell, Chuck Berry wasn't a saint either! I was reading up on him on Wikipedia the other day and it said that he used to go around from town to town and gather a band on the spot to play the night's show - fully expecting each recruited member to know his entire canon. He wouldn't give them a setlist or anything, they just had to play. According to the writer of the article, those days were not his best, to say the least.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 10, 2007 8:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

It is but one of MANY reasons why he wears no halo.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Sep 10, 2007 8:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

nothing like a good Sonic Youth noisefest; Thurston be one of my favourite guitarists

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Sep 10, 2007 10:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Perhaps the coolest double bill I ever saw was Sonic Youth/Sun Ra. And the whole Neil Young Ragged Glory tour with Sonic Youth in the middle slot with Social Distortion and drivin n cryin splitting the opening band slot was pretty damn good too. Got to give up for Sonic Youth (their last album is damn good - again, saw them open for Pearl Jam last time around; been awhile since I've seen as a headliner).

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 11, 2007 3:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Strange Mix - Terrapin

Got to give it up for Neil, too, for always giving support to rock's more jagged edges.

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Poster: latebutdeadicated Date: Sep 10, 2007 7:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: mix related but dif

has anyone ever tried to sync a dead studio album to the Wizard of Oz, similar to Dark Side?

the femmes opening for the dead, wow what a trip that must have been

peace

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Poster: BryanE Date: Sep 10, 2007 7:30am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mix related but dif

No, but it would be cool if it would actually work. I tried the DSOTM/Wizard of Oz thing and apparently needed to have been on something more than the anti-seizure drug I take.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 10, 2007 12:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mix related but dif

I was at the Femmes-Dead show. Buckeye lake (now Legend Valley) is a great venue. It was funny to look around at all the younger kids moshing around, going crazy (myself included), and the elder heads looking upon us as if we WERE crazy.
The Dead put on a great show. From the opening notes of Picasso I was gone. And of course the Rueben and Cherise was the cherry on top: I can hear the roar of the crowd still

This post was modified by craven714 on 2007-09-10 19:50:00